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it will have implications on pakistan. if you quit in 2014, whatever has been declared, obviously the best strategy for the taliban or the enemy, al qaeda and taliban, is to lie low, let time pass, and then rise again. so declaring... giving a timeline, i have always been saying that it ought to be effected, what effects do we want to create? you can't have it time related because then you'll be in the hands of the enemy, i would say. and if you leave in 2014 without stabilizing afghanistan, what will happen then? we need to visualize. >> well, the problem is... the difficulty i think for america is afghanistan hasn't been stable since, i guess, hannibal. (laughter) so the idea that we could stay there... (laughter). they don't appear to want to be stabilized so i mean... i guess the problem is can we really do that? can we do that for a country and is pakistan going to give them the room that they would need to do that or would they perhaps try and have some influence with the taliban adds well? >> well, first of all, i t
it will have implications on pakistan. if you quit in 2014, whatever has been declared, obviously the best strategy for the taliban or the enemy, al qaeda and taliban, is to lie low, let time pass, and then rise again. so declaring... giving a timeline, i have always been saying that it ought to be effected, what effects do we want to create? you can't have it time related because then you'll be in the hands of the enemy, i would say. and if you leave in 2014 without stabilizing afghanistan,...
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pakistan withholding $800 million in promised military aid to pakistan. the zus not happy with what you're doing. what do you do about it? >> first old all, i don't think that's a correct characterization. it includes $300 million in reimbursements that have just been slowed down. we haven't received a reimbursement since december 2010. so basically, it's just something that's already slow, having been slowed down more. the fact is that -- >> are you saying this is not a big deal? $800 million of aids has been suspended. >> both sides are working together on a number of things and pakistan is not happy with the pace of delivery of assistance. americans are not happy with the pace of delivery of certain deliverables from pakistan. it happens sometimes. right now because pakistan is a fledgling democracy and everything that happens there hits the media and there's an american domestic political context in which everything becomes an issue because of the way people react to your administration. this has become -- >> the reaction in pakistan to the u.s. decis
pakistan withholding $800 million in promised military aid to pakistan. the zus not happy with what you're doing. what do you do about it? >> first old all, i don't think that's a correct characterization. it includes $300 million in reimbursements that have just been slowed down. we haven't received a reimbursement since december 2010. so basically, it's just something that's already slow, having been slowed down more. the fact is that -- >> are you saying this is not a big deal?...
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and more trouble with pakistan. we'll talk to the intelligence chair. still ahead, uk hacking scandal claims another top official at scotland yard. send me your thoughts on twitter. this is "andrea mitchell this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving them a new choice. we'll deliver better service, with thousands of new cell sites... for greater access to all the things you want, whenever you want them. it's the at&t network... and what's possible in here is almost impossible to say. an accident doesn't have to slow you down. with better car replacement, available only with liberty mutual auto insurance, if your car is totaled, we give you the money for a car one model year newer. to learn more, visit us today. responsibility. what's your policy? >>> you're watching live pictures of the rose garden. the president's about to come
and more trouble with pakistan. we'll talk to the intelligence chair. still ahead, uk hacking scandal claims another top official at scotland yard. send me your thoughts on twitter. this is "andrea mitchell this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. a network of possibilities. in here, the planned combination of at&t and t-mobile would deliver our next generation mobile broadband experience to 55 million more americans, many in small towns and rural communities, giving...
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threatening to cut off nearly $1 billion in aid to pakistan. at first, the pakistani military sort of brushed it off. but today, the prime minister of pakistan expressed some real concern about that aid being cut. this visit could be one of the first steps to trying to find a way forward in which the two countries can still cooperate. >> the accusation is that elements of the isi, the pakistani intelligence service are helping insurgents, enemies of the united states in afghanistan and effectively helping to kill americans and other nato forces there. what are they saying about that? >> well, wolf, it doesn't make sense when you look ate from an american perspective. when i was in pakistan earlier this year, pakistani officials are very concerned about two things. they feel a threat from india. they're worried about the indians having influence in afghanistan. there are some elements within pakistan that use these insurgents in afghanistan as sort of a check on india's power there. they don't like this idea of this rival india having influence
threatening to cut off nearly $1 billion in aid to pakistan. at first, the pakistani military sort of brushed it off. but today, the prime minister of pakistan expressed some real concern about that aid being cut. this visit could be one of the first steps to trying to find a way forward in which the two countries can still cooperate. >> the accusation is that elements of the isi, the pakistani intelligence service are helping insurgents, enemies of the united states in afghanistan and...
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next thing we know, in pakistan helping with bomb strikes. >> his initial reports are accurate? he's talking, as you say, about damage done by the drones. then he sends a piece of video that shows him in the company of a top al qaeda. somebody we've been looking for for a long time, and then the mother load of information. he claims he's now rendered medical services to ayman al zawahiri. correct? >> how clever he was, weaving in between two worlds, the cia and al qaeda and convincing everyone he's on their side. but ultimately, as we discover later, he's actually on al qaeda's side in this elaborate plot, an incredible lure was set up by al qaeda using their own video equipment and knowledge it was set up by al qaeda, using their own video equipment and their own knowledge of how the cia works to create something so attractive that the cia could not possibly say no to it. >> the reason that the cia found him credible, although through the jordanians, and he knew the medical history of zawahiri, and it matched the information we from his egyptian files. and now the objective bec
next thing we know, in pakistan helping with bomb strikes. >> his initial reports are accurate? he's talking, as you say, about damage done by the drones. then he sends a piece of video that shows him in the company of a top al qaeda. somebody we've been looking for for a long time, and then the mother load of information. he claims he's now rendered medical services to ayman al zawahiri. correct? >> how clever he was, weaving in between two worlds, the cia and al qaeda and...
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the clashes reveal that al qaeda for years, said to be mostly across the border in pakistan is a concern back where they started in afghanistan's hills. we pushed down into the valley, still an insurgent strong hold. high-tech american attack helicopters buzzed overhead until militants shot at them from the valley. >> it's uncharacteristic from the taliban i know. they're getting gutsy. right past there. if you go past that you're going to take enemy contact, it's pretty certain. >> the afghans are clear about who lay in weight for them ahead. >> translator: it's very dangerous, there are taliban, arabs, pakistanis there. >> at the foot of the valley, the american base is often hit by pot shots, sometimes from lone gunmen up high who they then mortar. al qaeda's return to these remote hills could tie america's hands, making harder to justify pulling back from here. the terrorist network that made america's case for invading. nick payton walsh, cnn afghanistan. here at quicken loans, we like to go the extra mile for our clients. with the wassman family, it was 2,500 extra miles. we're the
the clashes reveal that al qaeda for years, said to be mostly across the border in pakistan is a concern back where they started in afghanistan's hills. we pushed down into the valley, still an insurgent strong hold. high-tech american attack helicopters buzzed overhead until militants shot at them from the valley. >> it's uncharacteristic from the taliban i know. they're getting gutsy. right past there. if you go past that you're going to take enemy contact, it's pretty certain. >>...
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pakistan and india disputed the status for decades. israel has stopped another ship trying to break the blockade of gaza. the navy sees the ship as part of a larger patilla as itted the coast. any supplies on board will be transferred legally to gaza. they insist on patrolling access because it said otherwise smugglers will try to ship to palestinian militants. during a random test, a veteran air traffic controller had a blood alcohol level at a center that handles air traffic for several states. a family member said he was given the chance of resigning or entering rehab and chose rehab. football star michael vick is bringing his newfound dogfighting to capitol hill. the quarterback who served 20 months in prison on a dogfighting conviction is backing proposed legislation criminalizing stick tators of those who let children watch the sport. >> i deeply regret my previous involvement in dogfighting and i'm sorry for what i did to the animals. during my time in prison, i wanted to be part of the solution and not the problem. i have been
pakistan and india disputed the status for decades. israel has stopped another ship trying to break the blockade of gaza. the navy sees the ship as part of a larger patilla as itted the coast. any supplies on board will be transferred legally to gaza. they insist on patrolling access because it said otherwise smugglers will try to ship to palestinian militants. during a random test, a veteran air traffic controller had a blood alcohol level at a center that handles air traffic for several...
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two are on the border of afghanistan and pakistan, which leads to a lot of uncertainty on the pakistan side of the border. >> how do we bring india in? how do we bring pakistan in? again, the united states and dr. brzezinski last week when he was here talked about all of our rivals, not enemies, but rivals are sitting there smiling, watching the united states power get drained in afghanistan. they are just standing by. >> it's absolutely right. when you think about the costs, you know, we are talking $120 billion. that's combat operations alone. that's not aid. not aid going to other countries. it does not include training. we are talking billions of dollars spent on this operation that we are seeing marginal improvements. >> $120 billion on combat alone per year. i'm sorry, i'm going to say it again, while our infrastructure is crumbling, while we fall behind k-12 in the schools and having to fire teachers, i'm sorry you can't explain this to americans in town hall meetings from california to maine down to south florida. they don't understand. >> it goes back to a great line i heart.
two are on the border of afghanistan and pakistan, which leads to a lot of uncertainty on the pakistan side of the border. >> how do we bring india in? how do we bring pakistan in? again, the united states and dr. brzezinski last week when he was here talked about all of our rivals, not enemies, but rivals are sitting there smiling, watching the united states power get drained in afghanistan. they are just standing by. >> it's absolutely right. when you think about the costs, you...
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and governs pakistan. at this moment, it's not possible. >> it's a fear? >> it is a fear if it's the integrity is no more. >> how many nuclear bombs does pakistan have? >> i don't know. >> about? >> i don't know. >> 100. >> i don't know. >> you knew when you were the president. you wouldn't know that as president of pakistan? >> they don't give me that figure. why am i concerned whether it's 89 years. i am not concerned about the figures what difference does it make whether it's 54 or 94 or 150. you met with the governor of texas, rick perry. what was that about? >> nothing. he wanted to meet. maybe exchange views on what it would be. >> did you get the impression he is thinking of running for president? >> well, i think i did, yes. >> you think he will? >> you need to ask him, but i did get that impression. >> i agree and i think he will run, but i haven't met with him. you came away from the meeting thinking he is going to run? >> yes. >> let's talk about you a little bit. how do you feel? >> i hope i am
and governs pakistan. at this moment, it's not possible. >> it's a fear? >> it is a fear if it's the integrity is no more. >> how many nuclear bombs does pakistan have? >> i don't know. >> about? >> i don't know. >> 100. >> i don't know. >> you knew when you were the president. you wouldn't know that as president of pakistan? >> they don't give me that figure. why am i concerned whether it's 89 years. i am not concerned about the...
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the military believes the gunmen were members of the pakistani pakistan in the swat valley. again, in 2009, a military operation chased them away. they say it's a tactic that will not work. wolf? >> an amazing, very, very amazing story. thanks very much for that. it's a startling claim by a man who wants to be president of the united states. we're going to focus on new remarks by republican presidential candidate herman cain who's taking his very vocal concerns about muslims to a whole new level. and when rupert murdoch faces british law makers in a matter of hours, he may feel like he and his entire media empire are on trial. stay with us. you're in "the situation room." discover customersl are getting five percent cashback bonus at the pump... and at many of the places their summer plans take them. it pays to switch, it pays to discover. >> announcer: this past year alone there's been a 67% spike in companies embracing the cloud-- big clouds, small ones, public, private, even hybrid. your data and apps must move easily and securely to reach many clouds, not just one. that'
the military believes the gunmen were members of the pakistani pakistan in the swat valley. again, in 2009, a military operation chased them away. they say it's a tactic that will not work. wolf? >> an amazing, very, very amazing story. thanks very much for that. it's a startling claim by a man who wants to be president of the united states. we're going to focus on new remarks by republican presidential candidate herman cain who's taking his very vocal concerns about muslims to a whole...
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for information and we do speaking and we help christians that are being persecuted in countries like pakistan. and we help christians who are suffering all throughout the middle east. >> how do you do that? >> none of your business. >> none of your business? that's interesting. our investigation continues tomorrow night, right? what are we going to see tomorrow? >> yeah. tomorrow, how he makes a business out of his expertise, how these donations to his cause end up with a so-called foundation owned by his business partner. and also the bigger question, anderson, why are our taxpayers going to pay this guy? he can say whatever he is wants. but where are the people vetting these so-called terrorism experts that are suddenly making a lot of money in this country? >> that's interesting. drew, fascinating. we'll continue to follow up. we'll have that report part two tomorrow. thanks, drew, a lot >>> coming up, you may not have been following the war in libya recently. but tonight you are going to get as close to the come bats as anyone can. our ben wedeman and his crew caught in the crossfire toda
for information and we do speaking and we help christians that are being persecuted in countries like pakistan. and we help christians who are suffering all throughout the middle east. >> how do you do that? >> none of your business. >> none of your business? that's interesting. our investigation continues tomorrow night, right? what are we going to see tomorrow? >> yeah. tomorrow, how he makes a business out of his expertise, how these donations to his cause end up with...
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talk about the drone lawyers against afghanistan, pakistan. you're reading a couple pieces in the "new york times." now it's spreading to all of these different countries and one that really jumped off the page for me, drone attacks in somalia. >> joining us, jeremy scahill, on the cia secret sites in somalia, jeremy, the secret training programs and secret prisons out of somalia is part of your reporting there. how big a threat are these terrorist group there's? >> we should say first of all president obama campaigned on a promise to go up against these bush era policies declaring war on the world, running secret sites, torturing prisoners. deeply involved in an underground dungeon officially run by the somali national security agency, but their salaries are paid by the cia directly. in fact, one somali agent described thousand hairli ed ho and paid by u.s. agents and the u.s. is interrogating prisoners, including those rendered by the kenyan government, snatched off the streets in nairobi based on u.s. intelligence and taken to this secret p
talk about the drone lawyers against afghanistan, pakistan. you're reading a couple pieces in the "new york times." now it's spreading to all of these different countries and one that really jumped off the page for me, drone attacks in somalia. >> joining us, jeremy scahill, on the cia secret sites in somalia, jeremy, the secret training programs and secret prisons out of somalia is part of your reporting there. how big a threat are these terrorist group there's? >> we...
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the focus now for panetta is to keep attacking al qaeda in pakistan, yemen, and somalia. >> now is the moment following what happened with bin laden to put maximum pressure on them. because i do believe that if we continue this effort that we can really cripple al qaeda. as a threat to this country. >> the u.s. has long said it believes al qaeda remains very interested in high-profile attacks and would like nothing better than to bring down a u.s. aircraft. apparently, osama bin laden was even talking about assembling a team of operatives. but of course, those navy s.e.a.l.s killed him in the compound before he could carry out the plan any further. >> general petraeus, i take it is getting ready to leave afghanistan, heading over to the cia? >> very soon. in fact, the change of command ceremony that will turn everything over in afghanistan to marine corps general john allen will take place monday morning in kabul. petraeus will get on a plane, come back to the united states, retire from years of service in the active duty army, and, in fact, in the coming weeks will do exactly that. ta
the focus now for panetta is to keep attacking al qaeda in pakistan, yemen, and somalia. >> now is the moment following what happened with bin laden to put maximum pressure on them. because i do believe that if we continue this effort that we can really cripple al qaeda. as a threat to this country. >> the u.s. has long said it believes al qaeda remains very interested in high-profile attacks and would like nothing better than to bring down a u.s. aircraft. apparently, osama bin...
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this is about pakistan, as we said on the show a number of times. how do we deal with pakistan and at the same time, get out of afghanistan except in terms of special forces or drones to represent our interest and chase down terrorists? meanwhile, you have the greatest tender box in the world, to save a nuclear pakistan with more than 100, probably twice as many with nuclear warheads that can fall into the hands of terrorists. >> the bottom line is, how do we deal with it? >> it's always pakistan is a basket case, a nuclear basket case. stay in afghanistan. >> you don't. you don't. >> it's not going to work. that is washington's argument, mike barnicle. pakistan is stabilized. we have to keep having american troops killed in afghanistan. it doesn't add up. invading cambodia is the right move when you are going into vietnam. >> continuing argument and keep making it because less than 1% of american families and american people are serving in the military in afghanistan. >> there you go. >> back to the draft. >> untouched. >> we need a draft. >> we'll
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yes, a failed state in pakistan would not be in the united states interest. is hit in the international interest to have continued nil-nil relations particularly with the pakistani military? that's a complicated piece of business on that border up there. absolutely. so that's what we do. we undertake... understanding with our eyes whid open some of the complexities. we understand the frustrations and disappoints we're going to have but our job is to pursue the naonal interest and i think to date to summarize it's at the end of ts first term presidenobama has ended the wain iraq and has us on the... ending our... the war in afghanistan and pushin towards a stable situation if we have pushed al qaeda further on stragic defeats, is if we've been able to focus tightly and improve the global economic situation and started to focus on, as i said, some of the real top priorities we need f the future and we have an increased american... a respect and admiration in the world it would have been a pretty good first term. >> rose: you've had interesting things to say abo
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one in afghanistan and the one in pakistan. there's a conflict in pakistan. there isn't a foreign intervention trying to resolve it. it is a great internal conflict. what we are seeing in pakistan is a series of contradictory policies, contradictory engagements and contradictory engagements. the army wants to preserve a stable pakistan that is assured of security and sees the united states as a component of the success in that quest. the military is defective. intelligence service seems to be torn and of course in the country at large, strong fundment list tendencies. it's not a single entity. it's fragmented. we have no choice until we are out of afghanistan to cooperate as much as we can with those pakistanis who see their interest in our success. >> back to the topic of the increasing class and income, we know it's there. you mentioned it's wider now than in country's like china. what do we think about ourselves given the fact people are lining up at the door to live in the united states of america. a lot of people want to live in china. >> there are two g
one in afghanistan and the one in pakistan. there's a conflict in pakistan. there isn't a foreign intervention trying to resolve it. it is a great internal conflict. what we are seeing in pakistan is a series of contradictory policies, contradictory engagements and contradictory engagements. the army wants to preserve a stable pakistan that is assured of security and sees the united states as a component of the success in that quest. the military is defective. intelligence service seems to be...
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if the americans leave, militants from pakistan will flow through the valley. if they stay, then every few days, this happens. the mortars hit the base. the last attack was long enough ago there's panic. they're worried the taliban have been preparing a big one. after days of nothing, the insurgents are getting attacked from all sides. >> come on, hustle up. >> reporter: they use mortars first, aiming fortal ban talibae hills. but the incoming fire is very accurate here. >> go, go, go! >> reporter: they arrange cover from heavy machine guns. but the bullets are too close. locals scatter. just before huge american fire power has the last word. four massive air strikes across the hills and then the taliban fall silent. america knew why it came here, but isn't sure why it's staying. >> can we get like a police call for like cigarette butts? >> absolutely. >> reporter: ten minutes later, jets swoop into strafe the hills. a show of force for the taliban are now either gone or dead, at least five killed by the soldiers count. the next morning, it starts again. mortar
if the americans leave, militants from pakistan will flow through the valley. if they stay, then every few days, this happens. the mortars hit the base. the last attack was long enough ago there's panic. they're worried the taliban have been preparing a big one. after days of nothing, the insurgents are getting attacked from all sides. >> come on, hustle up. >> reporter: they use mortars first, aiming fortal ban talibae hills. but the incoming fire is very accurate here. >>...
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s worsening relationship with pakistan since the killing of osama bin laden. the white house is looking in to how the u.s. will present the intelligence to pakistan's leadership. we'll be following that. willie? >>> moving on to some 2012 news, several 2012 candidates taking part in celebrations in primary and caucus states in new hampshire and iowa all in an effort to shore up critical early support in new hampshire. mitt romney continued to hammer president obama in the economy. he said the president, quote, failed us, because the recession is deeper because of our president. but when asked if he agreed with the assessment, former governor john huntsman skirted the issue focusing on what he and his fellow candidates can offer voters. >> some are you are republicans, independents, unaffiliated. i understand that. all i can say is take a look at where we've been, done, and stand for, where we hope to take the country, make an informed decision, then come back and talk to us. a. >> rivals bachmann toured new england. gingrich said he's committed to spending 16
s worsening relationship with pakistan since the killing of osama bin laden. the white house is looking in to how the u.s. will present the intelligence to pakistan's leadership. we'll be following that. willie? >>> moving on to some 2012 news, several 2012 candidates taking part in celebrations in primary and caucus states in new hampshire and iowa all in an effort to shore up critical early support in new hampshire. mitt romney continued to hammer president obama in the economy. he...
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most recent meeting two weeks ago where ambassador grossman who's now the envoy for afghanistan and pakistan told us this is a very fragile, difficult time. we know that for afghanistan. as we begin to draw down, what thauz that mean for their path to peace and stability and progress? american businesses will tell you if we want them to invest there, they won't do it without the presence of american security, that's very important for our government to know. >> are american businesses really willing to invest in afghanistan? >> they are. one of the most recent projects is with kate spade. kate spade has gone into afghanistan in the last year. they surveyed what tn opportunities are there for marketable products and going te marketableable products, and afghanistan has the third largest producer of cashmere, and they want a product made by afghan women and sold in kate spade stores here and online and they are willing to invest a lot of money i might add, but they have the support of the u.s. government and the u.s. military to give them access. >> anita mcbride, what a pleasure to see you ag
most recent meeting two weeks ago where ambassador grossman who's now the envoy for afghanistan and pakistan told us this is a very fragile, difficult time. we know that for afghanistan. as we begin to draw down, what thauz that mean for their path to peace and stability and progress? american businesses will tell you if we want them to invest there, they won't do it without the presence of american security, that's very important for our government to know. >> are american businesses...
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. >> pakistan. >> it is. harold ford, make no mistake of it. i saw this as a small government conservative. i say this as a free market capitalist. i will tell you a lot of people who voted for pat buchan nab two times for president would agree with me here that if you have hedge fund managers pays significantly less in taxes, our secretaries, our schoolteachers, if you have the largest corporations on the planet paying 0% in u.s. taxes, that is going to cause eventually social unrest. that's not a democratic issue or a republican issue. >> that's a problem. >> global financial institutions including imf made clear -- this challenge, unemployment and the growing disparity are the greatest threats. the question i have for dr. brzenszki, this morning, what advice would you have to achieve the most articulate and succinct frame -- i heard your frame of it, why we find ousts in this mess, the kind of shared sacrifi sacrifice. a week away from it. how do you do it, doctor. >> i think the majority in this country which involves moderate and responsib
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have $2.5 trillion in savings, a trillion of that assumes both the ends of the wars in afghanistan and pakistan. >> still not getting serious. >> i went away from fuzzy. >> is that like jerry at trick math? >> yes. >> are you surprised they don't have a deal today? i actually really -- i mean, i really thought -- >> i would be shocked if they don't have a deal in the next two or three days. again, republican freshmen may have a big ideology difference with barack obama and his world view, and the divide is no greater than ronald reagan's was with tip o'neal in 1983 when they sat down, and they did a kneel. yes, you differ with barack obama and the democrats, but -- >> usually you are good at seeing somebody's angle. like you know what their angle was. what is the angle here? i don't get it. >> these republicans believe this is their only opportunity -- >> are they so stuck to the contract with the tea party they cannot think outside the box for the good of the country? seriously? >> can i finish? you asked a question and i need to finish. they understand one thing. >> what do they understand? >
have $2.5 trillion in savings, a trillion of that assumes both the ends of the wars in afghanistan and pakistan. >> still not getting serious. >> i went away from fuzzy. >> is that like jerry at trick math? >> yes. >> are you surprised they don't have a deal today? i actually really -- i mean, i really thought -- >> i would be shocked if they don't have a deal in the next two or three days. again, republican freshmen may have a big ideology difference with...